I'd ask for the thread to be re-opened when you're ready and then ask very simple manner what do you have to do to get the name approved and then follow the instructions. If you do and then someone else comes in and contradicts it, bring that up and state that you did as you were told.
But I diiiiiiid thaaaaaaaat. A couple times and it still didn't work.
I asked how to get it through, was told adding another name to it was enough, and changed it. Even now with how the name is in the locked app its exactly the same as other characters that have been approved, so I don't know why it couldn't have been either then or previously with hismiddle name.
If asked to change again, do so, but most importantly don't get combative. Of all the parts of a character the name is the least important. No reason to get hung up on it as opposed to anything else. Try Erratic. Or Kookie Cloud. Or whatever as a legal name and haywire as a nickname used commonly as long as you aren't making edits in bad faith or poor spirit. You won't have to change a thing about your character's back-story. The obstacles you think are in your way are imaginary roadblocks. You can do it. I know you can.
I have to disagree here. In the real world a name may not be all that important since most people don't bother with the meaning behind theirs these days, but think back to when names did have meaning. Think of the name "Louis" for example. A lot of people today think its just a name, but it actually means great or famous warrior. Now rewind to when people payed attention to these things, and a guy named Louis was probably expected to be able to handle himself, especially when French kings took the name.
I think its probably similar with this show's world. Names, in my opinion, are probably the first things to give someone a guess as to who they may be, what they're good at, or at least what they do for a living. You hear "Rainbow Dash" and your first thought is that the character probably goes fast. You hear "Applejack" and assume she either really likes apples or at least uses them for something. Now I'm not saying this is canon of course or that it works in every case, unicorns seem to be exempt from this at times and it mostly seems to apply to pegasi and earth pom poms, especially if its meant as a kind of family name liek with the Apples.
But that's the thing, it was meant as a name similar to the Apples as my character came from a family of farm workers. He couldn't just have a random name that fit who he became but made no sense in terms of who he was supposed to be.
I probably just sound like I'm being unreasonably difficult, but I honestly just can't see his name being anything other than the one word I've found that fits. Erratic and Kookie Cloud are fine names for characters, but when I imagine renaming my character to either it just raises questions as to why it would make sense in the least. Why would his parents give him such a radically different name when we've seen that farming communities tend to stick to their trade for their names? A farm hand named Erratic? Why would his parents think that was a good idea or fit?
His legal name changing would actually change more than would be obvious, as I said in my first few replies during that thread. It means I would have to figure out some lame excuse as to why he was given the name to begin with, restructure his childhood and life experiences to suit the change, lose what meaning it was supposed to have just to replace it with something that has no meaning at all... Again, it would mean basically just writing a whole different character where such a name made sense instead of having the character I wanted, which would mean playing the character would be a chore I wouldn't want to do instead of fun.
I'm sure I could indeed write a new character, I've had plenty, but if that's what I wanted then I'd have done that to begin with.
To be rather honest, we would have stamped your app if you hadn't outright indicated your intention to violate the spirit of our RP rules. In all cases, it's always better to scrap an OC you're deeply unwilling to edit, rather than follow the RPH's instructions for an app only to disregard them within our RP itself. Our app approval process would be meaningless if RP characters were not actually bound to stay true to their application sheets.
I wasn't trying to be disrepectful (at least not at the beginning when I wasn't frustrated and no longer cared) but instead just wanted to be bluntly honest about the name. The sole reason the name was being changed was just to differentiate it from the other character's app. It wasn't actually his name, and if I had been accepted and someone looked up my character's app I didn't want them to suddenly be confused as to why my character had one more name then ever used IC.
The joke reason is that its a secret name that only he and his parents knew. The real reason was that it wasn't actually a thing. One glance and anybody who was curious or confused would just go "Oh, that's why." then move on with their day.
Nicknames that are used in place of names in RP are fine, but please make good faith edits in the application itself. IE; no pointing out how everypony only refers to your OC by their nickname. Other characters need the option to use either the proper name or nickname.
But why not? I was told in the thread by a member of either the SRP or RPH groups that never acknowledging or using his real name and only ever going by his nickname was okay, them even claiming to have done this very thing themselves. Also, if he never introduces himself as anything other than his nickname, then how could anyone ever address him as anything other than his nickname without using out of character knowledge they couldn't possibly have IC?
Does this also imply that characters aren't allowed to ever hide their name or other personal information just because someone out of character wants their characters to know stuff they couldn't reasonably find out?
Again, this was me just being honest about it. No one was going to be able to ever reasonably know or use his "real" middle name as it would never be used. This is because it wasn't actually a thing. His name was just shifted to this "nickname" status to get accepted, but since it would be the only thing to get used it was still pretty much his name.
Currently the name of the character in the locked thread is what I need with something extra added in to make the app seperate from the other character's. His new last name is there for the sole purpose of just getting past this whole thing. It won't ever be mentioned, won't ever be used; won't ever be known to anyone other than himself and his parents, and they will never tell. For all intents and purposes, it doesn't exist.
If the thread was to be unlocked, I would be willing to delete the blunt line where I flat out say what the name is and just leave it as a secret to himself and his parents. Characters are allowed to keep secrets, are they not? Other than that though, I see no reason to change it any further with how I've seen other people get by no problem by doing the same thing.
That line about "older characters" still makes me worry though, even if this works.
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But I diiiiiiid thaaaaaaaat. A couple times and it still didn't work.
I asked how to get it through, was told adding another name to it was enough, and changed it. Even now with how the name is in the locked app its exactly the same as other characters that have been approved, so I don't know why it couldn't have been either then or previously with hismiddle name.
I have to disagree here. In the real world a name may not be all that important since most people don't bother with the meaning behind theirs these days, but think back to when names did have meaning. Think of the name "Louis" for example. A lot of people today think its just a name, but it actually means great or famous warrior. Now rewind to when people payed attention to these things, and a guy named Louis was probably expected to be able to handle himself, especially when French kings took the name.
I think its probably similar with this show's world. Names, in my opinion, are probably the first things to give someone a guess as to who they may be, what they're good at, or at least what they do for a living. You hear "Rainbow Dash" and your first thought is that the character probably goes fast. You hear "Applejack" and assume she either really likes apples or at least uses them for something. Now I'm not saying this is canon of course or that it works in every case, unicorns seem to be exempt from this at times and it mostly seems to apply to pegasi and earth pom poms, especially if its meant as a kind of family name liek with the Apples.
But that's the thing, it was meant as a name similar to the Apples as my character came from a family of farm workers. He couldn't just have a random name that fit who he became but made no sense in terms of who he was supposed to be.
I probably just sound like I'm being unreasonably difficult, but I honestly just can't see his name being anything other than the one word I've found that fits. Erratic and Kookie Cloud are fine names for characters, but when I imagine renaming my character to either it just raises questions as to why it would make sense in the least. Why would his parents give him such a radically different name when we've seen that farming communities tend to stick to their trade for their names? A farm hand named Erratic? Why would his parents think that was a good idea or fit?
His legal name changing would actually change more than would be obvious, as I said in my first few replies during that thread. It means I would have to figure out some lame excuse as to why he was given the name to begin with, restructure his childhood and life experiences to suit the change, lose what meaning it was supposed to have just to replace it with something that has no meaning at all... Again, it would mean basically just writing a whole different character where such a name made sense instead of having the character I wanted, which would mean playing the character would be a chore I wouldn't want to do instead of fun.
I'm sure I could indeed write a new character, I've had plenty, but if that's what I wanted then I'd have done that to begin with.
I wasn't trying to be disrepectful (at least not at the beginning when I wasn't frustrated and no longer cared) but instead just wanted to be bluntly honest about the name. The sole reason the name was being changed was just to differentiate it from the other character's app. It wasn't actually his name, and if I had been accepted and someone looked up my character's app I didn't want them to suddenly be confused as to why my character had one more name then ever used IC.
The joke reason is that its a secret name that only he and his parents knew. The real reason was that it wasn't actually a thing. One glance and anybody who was curious or confused would just go "Oh, that's why." then move on with their day.
But why not? I was told in the thread by a member of either the SRP or RPH groups that never acknowledging or using his real name and only ever going by his nickname was okay, them even claiming to have done this very thing themselves. Also, if he never introduces himself as anything other than his nickname, then how could anyone ever address him as anything other than his nickname without using out of character knowledge they couldn't possibly have IC?
Does this also imply that characters aren't allowed to ever hide their name or other personal information just because someone out of character wants their characters to know stuff they couldn't reasonably find out?
Again, this was me just being honest about it. No one was going to be able to ever reasonably know or use his "real" middle name as it would never be used. This is because it wasn't actually a thing. His name was just shifted to this "nickname" status to get accepted, but since it would be the only thing to get used it was still pretty much his name.
Currently the name of the character in the locked thread is what I need with something extra added in to make the app seperate from the other character's. His new last name is there for the sole purpose of just getting past this whole thing. It won't ever be mentioned, won't ever be used; won't ever be known to anyone other than himself and his parents, and they will never tell. For all intents and purposes, it doesn't exist.
If the thread was to be unlocked, I would be willing to delete the blunt line where I flat out say what the name is and just leave it as a secret to himself and his parents. Characters are allowed to keep secrets, are they not? Other than that though, I see no reason to change it any further with how I've seen other people get by no problem by doing the same thing.
That line about "older characters" still makes me worry though, even if this works.