Rosewind

They're probably off following Trixie, wherever she is!

Celestia on a ritz, Ash! That's some crazy counting skills there.

Now imagine all the money Hasbro would make if they'd give us our Season 1 box set with extras...

Get counting!

I hope it doesn't cost that much!

What about her redesign? I didn't like it at first -- I liked the original Luna from the pilot. Buuuut, the new version is definitely growing on me. Now that I've actually given it a chance, I sort of see how it was necessary to make her appear older and more developed (with the flowing mane especially) in Nightmare Night. She's quite an adorable and complex character; I hope they explore her more.

I think the story behind Celestia/Luna -- and their longevity and place in the world -- is probably one of the most sought after story elements to date. I'm sure we'll eventually get some background on them outside of what we got in the first moments of the pilot, and if they are related to Cadance. The mystery is just so thrilling, isn't it?

I'm surprised ._. I'm extremely surprised actually

I'm just as surprised about p0n-3. I never expected to ever see a p0n-3 toy. she just seems so... not "girly" enough, you know?

For getting all of 2 seconds of face time she certainly has a lot of fans! Her inclusion demonstrates to me that Hasbro is watching us more carefully than we believe, and this latest move is genius -- they can hit their target market and us at the same time.

FIM is not really new. They took an existing series and revamped it with a large number of other existing ideas.

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1) I have never seen a movie in which I thought the 3D was lazy. I think you are projecting. You call it obvious, yet how is it that I missed it? Is it lazy business nature for a theater to buy brand new expensive equipment that might not pay off? That was a fear back in 2009 when this was ramping up. Is it lazy to produce a movie that is guaranteed to succeed? No, it is good business practice.

2) Why didn't you lead with this point? This is quite valid and important. And more believable than "Anyone who does 3D is lazy and greedy". I'm was not pinning my generalization just on you, but on the feeling I get when I talk with people in real life. I've never left the theater with people complaining about it, but I have heard many people rag on it who are several months removed from the experience.

Taking my FiM example into account -- FiM is "new" enough to 1. Attract a new, huge audience that it was never intended for. 2. Changed a lot of the attitudes behind entertainment designed for girls. 3. Demonstrated an unprecedented production quality with an animated television series on a limited budget. 4. Changed how character design is expressed in a cartoon series. 5. Brought together thousands of people from all walks of life to celebrate their passion over said series. Do you think a large number of existing ideas could magically come together to accomplish everything I just listed, or is there some "X" factor at play here that has some greater purpose? A remix does not make a cult classic. An original idea executed well does.

I never said that anyone who did 3D was lazy. I think the producers that take a movie that was not originally designed with 3D elements and edits them in, then markets the thing as a new product -- that is "lazy" business practice. I also agree it's smart business, because instead of producing a new film with all the costs involved, you take a film that's already been sold, and literally sell it again to a possible new audience, as well as a dedicated older one. As I said before, if you feel it's a good value (and I'm sure plenty of people do feel this), then all the better.

This topic also extends beyond movies. Taking my game example again, a lot of older games are getting ports. I've bought games I already own so I can experience them on a different platform. I wanted to play it on my handheld device instead of my PC, so I felt value and made the purchase, even though I know it took the publisher very little effort to put the game on a new platform. Then again, maybe they did have to put some effort into it. Who knows?

As for my other reasons for disliking the 3D, I didn't spearhead with that because I felt the business practice argument needed more discussion. I think all of my reasons carry importance around my argument, and I do not disagree that just because something doesn't take a lot of effort, that people should not find value in it. I just feel there should be balance, and that if something is going to be rehashed, it should include more than just 3D to put itself across as more than just a cash grab.

Oh no, we're second place to another meme on a cheezburger network site. Whatever shall we do?!

I love the pony meltdown episodes -- so fun! Some fans might not like Lesson Zero because of Twilight's behavior, but it was a very important set up for the rest of Season 2 -- it allowed future episodes to focus on other characters besides Twilight, and focused it has!

I didn't like Over a Barrel, except for the opening scene. The whole bit with the buffalo and the Appleloosa war...eh, it just didn't seem to come together and it was way too predictable. Mare Do Well was also one of my least favorites because RD was so out of character to me, and I'm sure I'm not alone on this.

Looks like Hasbro is finally running out of their G3 stockpile! Huzzah!

I'd definitely like to get the BG pony set. I'm glad white Celestia is coming out, though I agree those wings look bleh.

Does this mean we might see more of Pon-3? Imagine the fan freakout. Trixie too!

There is nothing new under the sun.

Everything is recycled and rehashed and redone.

Adding 3D to a movie could not possibly be trivial. And I haven't heard any reviews yet. Are people saying it looks tacked on? it wouldn't have to be that way. Have you ever seen 3d trading cards? They were obviously not designed to be three dimentional, but they can still be stunning.

I am so surprised that you find the situation distasteful. There is consumer demand for more star wars stuff, and they are filling the need.

What is more surprising to me is that it seems to be cool to hate on 3D. Most of my friends here are the same. It is neat technology and it will get better, but why are the peoples, especailly those that haven't seen many or any ragging on it?

Nothing new under the sun? Everything is rehashed? How about new content that is inspired to be awesome? Look at how My Little Pony got redone to Friendship is Magic. Here's my take away point: if producers improve their content, maybe adding more to it, and the 3D complimented it instead of setting it as a selling point, I think I would find the business motive behind it more palatable. That doesn't mean I disapprove of them making money; it's smart business and if I was in their position, I would probably be recycling already-made content to make more money because the production cost to profit would not only be smart, but profitable.

However, this paradigm of recycling content can only sell its nostalgia so far -- to the point that all we will get are movies we've seen before because it's less risky to produce those than something new. This trend is already deeply present in the video game industry with the rampant "sequelitis" seen from many video game brands. Investors would rather throw their money at a sure thing than a new IP that might fail, but the end result is that we don't get anything new or interesting on the table...or the big screen.

Is it cool to hate on 3D, or do the people that dislike it have geniune reasons for disliking it, besides the obviously lazy business nature behind it? I personally do not like watching 3D movies because I find the effect distracting from the movie, they make my eyes hurt, and they give me headaches. Does that mean that I'm joining a bandwagon to hate on 3D because it's cool to dislike it, or are my reasons of real validity?

You say that like making money by entertaining people is a bad thing. If the experience is worth $20 a seat, people will gladly pay it. So far I have never left a theater thinking "why did I see that in 3D? what a waste!"

I think making money by entertaining people is a great idea...except when it's using obviously recycled content to do it. So, not only is the company getting you to pay for a ticket for a rehash you've probably already seen in the theatre, you're paying more money to do it because of a tacked-on gimmick. Whether or not you're getting a good value is clearly in the eye of the consumer. If you enjoy the Star Wars prequels, this release is something with high value that you will likely pay for. For everyone else, it really does look like a cash grab. It's a niche market to be sure, and a lucrative one at that.

I'm not sure 3D really adds much when tacked onto stuff. It can be amazing when its supposed to be there, but I don't honestly know if I'm crazy about this trend to just add 3D to films and re-release them. It seems kind of silly to me.

And it certainly isn't going to make a bad movie suddenly good.

This.

I suppose for some persepective, the audience this is targeting was the one that was probably too young to see the movies originally in the theatre, people who missed it, and, of course, hardcore Star Wars fans that would like the big screen experience again.

Let's not forget the lamp! Lamp needs love.

Hay there, I like your name!

That's Tales. She's fun and super helpful and gets a notification every time you quote her

Is this true? *rubs her hooves together grinning Lesson Zero-like*

Oh yeah, welcome, Horse! Original name. I like it. It also gives me an excuse to post this:

Interesting story! Welcome to the forums.

This feels like a big cash grab to me. But if you really like Star Wars or the whole 3D thing, go nuts!

I've found that "splash infections" happen pretty easily, considering how bright and interesting the episodes usually look.

That story with the office chair pinning is so funny, I'm glad you were able to force a positive conversion out of that!

For everypony waiting for Saturday: you're in for a real treat! I still intend to watch it again, legit, on Sat, though! (Have to keep those ratings soaring!)

I wonder if someone at Apple really did hit the wrong button?

I was a hater around this time last year. I would often antagonize the bronies on the sites I would visit. It wasn't until I became that which I swore to destroy that I realized how silly I had been. Haters are going to hate. That is just how the internet life works.

I've seen so many people converted that originally intended to troll the show and its fans; it's irony at its most delicious.

Ignore. If you don't react, you become less interesting and they'll have to find some other mundane way to entertain themselves.

Alternatively, you could use the kill'um with kindness approach. If you give them the reaction that's the opposite if what they expect, you're removing the reason for their interest in teasing you.

With either choice, keep it classy.

You don't have to hash out every detail -- just foot a note saying "Yeah, there will be electricity in this thread based on what was seen in this episode," or otherwise.

I haven't really prodded around the RP forums too much, maybe my version of what's to be expected -- or what different forms RP can take -- is from a different school of thought and practice.

We have now learned that rosewind is for the exploitation of hamsters. Discuss.

You got me. I admit it. I run an international hamster slavery ring.

Sorry

No need to apologize! I'm actually referring more to my opinion of 'net trolls than this thread itself.

Edit: I just reread what I wrote before, and I apologize I wasn't clear the first time. Smile!

They've already embraced us -- my theory is that they're just trying to figure out how best to market to us based on their infrastructure and resources, without alienating their primary consumer group.

If anything else, they'll continue to outsource permissions to other companies such as WLF and Hot Topic, as they're doing now.