EquestrianScholar

Well this video actually tells story of how Luna wanted to help the the suffering ponies by taking some and making a new colony. Celestia in a way I did not quite like (forbidding her sister with the artwork showing dominance and control, even leaving it open for to be interpreted that Celestia did not care about her suffering of her subjects) said she did not feel dividing an already weak nation would actually help make it better or safer for ponies.

So Luna, putting to sleep her sister and the guards as well as all other awake in the city, goes out and gathers a number of the homeless and orphaned foals believing it easier to ask forgiveness than permission. She then flies the foals to their new home...

The video is beautifully animated and very very well done but if it wasn't for the fact of how the Celestia is shown in the way she is a bit out of character I cannot fully enjoy it. Celestia would have explained that it would be easier and more productive for all of their subjects for Luna to help her rebuild the city to create homes and find families for the orphaned and homeless foals that do not have such.

I am willing to pay $10-15 dollars through Paypal for an skilled artist to change these characters into ponies:

Just a little background the charmers' names are Aussa (earth, brown), Hiita (fire, red), Eria (water, blue), Wynn (wind, green), Dharc (dark, black), Lyna (light, white). Dharc is the only guy in the group based on what is most commonly believed and his art.

The first four came long before the last two, so in that way they could be called the 'oldest'.

Use the picture to decide on what they should look like, maybe using their staffs and the elements they control for ideas on what their cutie marks should look like.

Fear Not This Night made by Jeremy Soule for the game Guild Wars II, especially when you watch this video:

With just minor edits to their quotes, I can make a case for the Equestria being the Tau Empire (or Equestrian Empire) in the Warhammer 40k universe.

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Aun’Celestia: It burns so briefly, the light of my little ponies, so briefly. But, by the Greater Harmony, it burns so bright!

Aun’Celestia: It saddens me greatly that we must take arms against the races of the galaxy. By their deaths, they deny themselves the liberation that is only to be found in total surrender to the Greater Harmony.

There is no victory without unity, no peace when there's conflict. In this dark time, we can only forget our differences and fight the darkness together.

They are fierce indeed these Griffin, and savage. I look upon them and tremble at their ferocity. I can only hope that when the enemy sees them they tremble as I do.

A thousand fibres connect each of us with our fellow ponies and along those fibres our deeds run as causes which come back to us as effects. Everything we must do must be in furtherance of the Greater Harmony lest we return to the Troubled Times, the Discord.

The other races are not intrinsically evil.

Do not hate them. Pity them for their ignorance.

Seek to understand their differences

And acquaint them with their inadequacies.

Only then will they accept their place

in the Greater Harmony.

It is not our technology that will enable us to prevail in this galaxy. It is our shared sense of honour and commonality of cause that unites us and will give us the power to defeat our enemies.

It is as we join with others, in a way that only Equestrians can, in shared engagement to the Greater Harmony, that we find ourselves able to fully realize our true potential. And that is the final source of our hopes and intentions.

I have received your messages, acquainting me that these worlds belong to your Emperor, your master. In return I am to inform you that the said worlds belong to their Ethereal Majesties, Aun'Celestia and Aun’Luna, my masters, by right of settlement. Should you wish to gain similar rights you must submit yourselves to their wisdom as citizens of the Equestrian empire.

I am more then willing to make a new character if I must but since things are busy/distracting in real life I was wondering if a revision of an already approved character would be allowed (with possibly re-approval)?

This is like the Civil War of Equestria...

Lunar Republic if Luna secedes, Followers of Chaos if there's no conflict.

I mean, chocolate rain is good! I like chocolate rain! It's like, infinite amounts of chocolate, pouring into my mouth!

Well that is your choice yet may I ask why she would reasonably feel the need to be against Celestia, or how Luna would be in the right to do so?

Myself as I saw what Celestia did a 1000 years ago as the right thing to do as leader of Equestria, and that I don't see Celestia as a tyrant I never saw a point to the Lunar Republic.

Lol. Pulling the strings... I can totally see Discord's name written all over those strings. Also, I really like the idea of making that into a roleplay. It'd be my first official one, but I'd definately be a part of that if I could.

Also don't forgot that a certain group can take the appearance of others, at least one could take the appearance of the princesses.

Maybe I can create/put together a roleplay based by how people vote.

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Possible ideas:

Equestria is under threat of the Changling Swarms and the Followers of Chaos, forcing the Equestrian Diarchy to call upon the aid of the Guardians of Harmony and the sisters to offically estabilishing the Mane Six as generals. A setting where Equestria has been at war for a number of years so as to allow Twilight and friends to go into their position as leaders, before the events of season three or after mattering what people want.

Or perhaps having the factions Solar Empire, Lunar Republic, Guardians of Harmony, and the Followers of Chaos facing off against each other in conflict... though I would add a certain twist so that Celestia and Luna are not actually in charge of the Solar Empire and Lunar Republic but someone else is pulling the strings to make it seem like the sisters are against each other, maybe even have the princesses out of the picture by them being captured.

I would happily support Twilight and her friends in a time of conflict. Despite being inexperienced when compared to the Princesses, I feel like they'd be able to overcome any obstacle to bring harmony back to the land. Hay, they've done it quite a few times already. I'm sure it could happen again.

With the Royal Sisters sharing power, I'd have to back the diarchy. Chocolate rain would be a sticky mess, and I'm still on the fence about the changelings. With a benevolent leader, I would back the changelings, but for the sake of continuity, I'm assuming Queen Crysalis is still in power.

Also this would create conflict and drama since it would mean the Mane Six and the rest of the Guardians would need to turn against Celestia and Luna, especially so for Twilight since Celestia is so important to her...

Especially since it was never shown that Queen Crysalis didn't bring back together her scattered swarm... though some could say that she actually has the best interest of her childen at heart and only did what she did so that she could feed them and herself.

I'm still going with Luna

That is your choice, just remember you can show support to Princess Luna without being against Princess Celestia. ^_^

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This would mean though as a supporter of the Guardians of Harmony that I must stand against you.

I have created an updated/new thread for all this:

Now the reason why I have seperated this poll into two Questions is because there are fans, like me, that don't see the sisters are against each other. As such I feel it is only fair that the poll allows fans to show their support of both sisters and their right to rule, not choose just one. In turn I have provided a third option for those that do not wish to support either the Solar Empire and the Lunar Republic, one that seeks to keep harmony in the land.

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The Guardians of Harmony is a faction I created as my "Take a Third Option", in such a setting in which the sisters are for whatever reason opposed. A group originally created by Princess Celestia after the banishment of Nightmare Moon with the direction to be protectors of Equestria.

They are to obey her orders until such a time as either her sister Luna can return to her rightful place by her side in which case the Guardians are to obey the both of them or if for whatever reason the royal family were to become a threat to Equestria... they are to obey the orders of those that wield the Elements of Harmony.

In this case this means that if the Solar Empire and Lunar Republic was to actually come into existence and the sisters were behind these groups, the Guardians of Harmony would obey the orders of Twilight and her friends. If on the other hoof Celestia and Luna are not oppose or behind the conflict between the groups the Solar Empire and Lunar Republic those that wield the Elements of Harmony would be their generals.

Well just because neither side is actually right, doesn't mean that there will be a right side. Even in Equestria, the lesser of two evils must be taken. Now that being said, I think both would make great leaders, but it different ways. I feel that Luna would be more relaxed than Celestia on some of her policies, but also harder on the evils (for some odd reason I feel she would have some sort of knee jerk "Get rid of it now and forever" mentality.) That being said, I do like Luna more.

Myself I would rather go with the that has proven she is an intellegant and wise leader with over 1000 years of service to her subjects. I mean if you have a leader that citizens follow loyalty and with respect, one wouldn't just toss this leader aside for one with much less experiance and that has shown that has make choices that would have destroyed Equestria.

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I apologize for the double post, I am used to my posts combining together if I make two (MLP Forums).

This thread needs updating. There are more social parties vying for dominance now. The Crystal Empire, The Changeling Monarchy (weakened, but still a threat, in my opinion), and now Princess Twilight's Regime (that's the only name I can come up with right now) are also possibilities. For now, I'm going with the Lunar Republic. At least until this thread is revised, or a new one is made.

Despite the name, the Crystal Empire is a part of Equestria and more like a city it would seem. the Changlings are a group few but fans would follow and Twilight is loyal to Celestia.

I bring this thread back from its slumber as I seek its continuation!!

... laughs. Interesting I was thinking the same thing for the changlings being the [colour=#282828]Tzimisce.

Applejack as the odd one out in many ways as she didn't really fit any of the clans of Camarilla but Ventrue. Yet after a bit of thought and consideration it makes sense as the Ventrue are the more business oriented despite the face Applejack and her family really aren’t ‘leaders’.[/colour]

The stallion realized that she must have misunderstood what he had meant, and through such lost his chance for a truly enjoyable kiss as she gave him a brief one instead. He bows before explaining, [colour=#4b0082]“I apologize, you seem to have misunderstood me. My request for more than one kiss was not because I believe your kisses are not good enough simply…” [/colour]He considers for a moment on how to explain himself before coming up with an analogy she would understand and says, [colour=#4b0082]“it is more how a pony enjoys the taste of a wonderful slice of apple pie and wishes for another. Your kiss would be like such, and I sought more than one.”[/colour]

Sighing, knowing it was unlikely he would be able to salvage what he had hoped to gain he smiles at the mare and says, [colour=#4b0082]“and not I cannot even give you the kiss I had planned, one I feel you would enjoy as much as I would. One the apples I will figure out a way to get them to where I need to go, perhaps I can ask for something with wheels that I can pull with my magic and return it to you Miss Applejack? I would be most grateful.” [/colour]He gives the mare another tilt of his head as he took a step back and waited for her reply.

Rabukurafuto, thank you and I agree such a clan is perfect for Pinkie Pie. Though I do now ask that if you know Vampire the Masquerade well and if so could you offer any suggests on how to better mix the Six’s personality and their lives with that of their clans. Also I am still a bit unsure how to go about showing such powerful beings such as Celestia, Luna, and more importantly Discord.

Since posting this I have actually considered Discord having brought about the Sabbat long ago to create conflict, chaos, and fear… also as a ‘take that’ to the order and stability of Camarilla, to show they are fools for trying to hide among mortal ponies. This is in addition to his connection to Clan Ravnos and Followers of Chaos.

My goal when putting this fanfiction idea together is to find a balance between the dark drama of Vampire the Masquerade with the lighthearted world of My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. The roleplaying game is actually pretty grim, as even the vampires that are the protagonist struggle with what is called 'the beast' or 'the beast within' and it is much of a tooth and nail world. The clans of Camarilla, though aligned and working together to keep the deception of the Masquerade intact, at times see their allies poorly and struggle with their own problem or conflicts. I have decided, because of what such would represent, that each of the six will be of different houses which thankfully isn't too difficult. Yet by having the six be the vampires of the clans it will mean their personalities will be a bit darker. On the same note the dark drama of the roleplay will be lessened, as I wish to still stay true to the show to an extent. This will be interesting and challenging to say the least, which is why I ask all those that know the Vampire the Masquerade or are willing to learn of the roleplay help me figure out how to do this. I would be most grateful for any help I can get and what I currently have is below. Also there will still be the Elements of Harmony in this fanfiction though they may work a bit differently and it is because of these artifacts and the six vampires of the clans that used them that Luna was able to be torn from the grasp of her own 'beast within'. One thing I am sure you will also notice as well as there wont be any true family bonds, as only the Giovanni clan actually take from their own often incestuous family line... and lets just say there is a few reasons why Camarilla hates this clan and that is one of them. Most vampires that are sired are not related to the one that changed them into their undead state though I have played it that they still 'join the families' of their sire so to speak.

Twilight Sparkle would be of Clan Tremere, as turned by a vampire that would become her mother who had adopted Twilight with her hunsband and raised her in preparation of what she would learn of Tremere. When she had gained the attention of her city's princess, and the most ancient of Camarilla's elders, she would become her student... despite the fact Celestia was a Ventrue. The reason for this was that Celestia was far more skilled in Thaumaturgy then most Tremere. This being mostly because of her age then anything else, thus being one that could teach her student many things especially the use of the power Presence, and the blood magics of her student's clan. Twilight has an insatiable thirst for knowledge, wishing to know all there is and a very logical mind which lend well to her great skill at magic.

Pinkie Pie would be of Clan Malkavian, a true example of her clan as she does not always make sense and her insanity showing itself as an odd eccentrics and a surprising energy few could hope to match. Her greatest pleasure being to bring, at times confusing, excitement into the lives of those she meets and especially that of other kindreds. Her greatest skill being to cause others to laugh and to underestimate the abilities she possesses, all the while taking in what is going on around her and doing that which seems impossible... or so it seems. In truth it is because the special power of her clan Dementation is continuously in effect if to a minor degree, simply put the impossible things that happen when she is around is because of this power.

Rarity would be of Clan Toreador, a vampire of great beauty and refinement a Toreador in every sense of the word that goes through her unlife working for there to be beauty all around her. Having been a fashion designer in life she continues such once being turned, growing to be in demand by those like her because of her skills. Yet her skills were not only in the cloth but in a social setting as well, truly knowing how to manipulate those around her and get what she wants out of the situation. Yet at the same time, secretly, she has shown what would surprise many to be a generous side that only those she trusts knows about and all others she waves it away as no big deal or suggests is for selfish reasons.

Rainbow Dash would be of Clan Brujah, is hotheaded and brash much like other of her clan with of love of the extreme. Once a stunt flyer that did small shows in her town it was through this she gained the chance to meet fliers more skilled then herself who it turned out one was of the clan Brujah and she was turned into a vampire. Loving her new abilities and speed as a vampire she took to it better then many. Quick to violence she is also very loyal, and has a sense of honor that will allow her to be relied on despite her temper. She seems to care more about showing off and looking cool yet is willing to puts such aside if she needs to and is very good to have in a fight.

Applejack would be of Clan Ventrue, having been turned by one she would come to call her brother and taken in by his family growing to eventually pretty much lead her new family's business. Known for keeping her words and her dealings honest with the kindred she always gives a fair yet profitable price. Having a strong will and hardheadedness that cases her house and others exasperation at times, yet her grasp of the rules and how to use them is second to none. She will help to make sure everything is in order and point out the flaws in what others say even if she does not lead, and it seems she has gained the strength know for by her family.

Fluttershy would be of Clan Gangrel, being a true oddity among vampires and is considered too softhearted for unlife, making many wonder who sired. Her passion and skill for animals, the very thing that caused her to be turned her into a vampire by her sire, helped her to reforge the bond that had seemed lost with her animal compantions for becoming a monster. She is shy and reclusive to say the least but has over time grown used to her lot. She still likes to stay in the forest with her animal companions yet has learned how to involve herself in Camarilla's affairs and has, surprisingly for many, even become close to some of other vampires.

Celestia and Luna would be of Clan Ventrue, both over 2000 years old and thus very powerful though for a very long time Luna had been imprisoned when she lost herself to the 'beast within' until her sister was able to finally find a way to bring her back to her senses and have her released from the beast. Many wondered why the eldest didn't just kill her, as was common for those that gave in and lost themselves to the beast but if she had there would be one less threat to any that thought to oppose the Camarilla and Equestria. It was also for other reasons, as it had been because of her sister that Celestia had not herself given into the beast and gone mad. Not only that but they were mutually blood bonded to the fullest degree, which in part is what lead Luna to fall to her darkness when her sister begin spending more time with and giving more attention to her subjects then to her. Now that Luna has returned though her older sister has shown her more affection then she could almost handle, in part because of how much Celestia missed her. Luna has had to learn to adapt to the changes that have come about since her return, and is currently be taught by her sister how to come to a state where she will not need to worry of her beast any longer.

It has been spoken that Celestia has found Golconda, and for those that actually know more her search for such come after being forced to imprison her sister away when she gave into the beast. This actually is truth, which bring into question why this princess and elder has not left as most have that gained Golconda... but for all that know her it is because she truly does care about her subjects both vampire and mortal, being unwilling to leave for as long as they need her. It was on the return of her sister, after Luna was given release from the beast, that Celestia now helps her younger sister towards Golconda as well. Yet she has not only focused on herself and her sister but seeks to lead other vampires to this higher state as well... counting perhaps Twilight and the other Elements of Harmony.

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No one knows for sure where Discord came from though the princess connect him to the Clans Ravnos and Followers of Chaos (alternate version of Followers of Set), an extremely ancient vampire that even Celestia and Luna fear greatly. With no care but for his own and having perfected many of powers that a vampire can learn he seems at times to actually warp the land around him with his illusions and magics. Manipulative and deceptive he loves getting others to play his games at his terms. Working it so that he comes out on top and with the last laugh. He holds no love for his kindred or for the clans, let alone humans which he uses as mere playthings... though he often does the same for vampires as such there isn't much difference.

[colour=#000000]As the next customer walked up, Applejack took a deep breathe. She was one quarter the way done with her sales. There still was a lot of work to be done.[/colour]

[colour=#FF0000]"Howdy!"[/colour][colour=#000000] Applejack greeted the next pony in line, who was a silver unicorn stallion. It was somewhat of a relief to get another pony that had the same height as her. Mythos complimented Applejack. [/colour] [colour=#FF0000]"Aw, you don't gotta go all inta that. Itain't nothin'!"[/colour][colour=#000000] Applejack corrected him. [/colour][colour=#FF0000]"Five bits to a bushel."[/colour][colour=#000000] She winked at him. She could tell already that this sale was going to go well. She took a bushel of Red Delicious apples and shoved them forward. [/colour][colour=#FF0000] "One bushel and one kiss. Is that all you need?"[/colour]

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Mythos smiles warmly at the mare before saying with a nod, "Yes, five bits to a bushel." Looking over the mare he says with a grin, "any chance by buying more then a bushel I could get two kisses." He says with partly in jest and his voice suggested as much but his face was also serious if cheerful as he continues, "I do not feel a single kiss will give justice to such a lovely mare as yourself... yet I am fine with only one if that is what you wish." The stallion holds out 20 bits with his hoof, offering them to her if she wished to have them. He look like a friendly sort, but his matters and request might at least suprised Applejack.

GET BACK ON TOPIC!

Agreed

Im just trying to keep this thread on rails man ;_;

Yes and I technically voted for the Solar Empire yet in truth both are actually wrong. Also it was on the rails when we were discussing Celestia and Luna... as what are the Solar Empire and Lunar Republic but the fans creating a civil war in their support of the favorite princess?

On that note I pick the Guardians of Harmony, the group that refuses to see Equestria divided and know that the land can only stand if there is Harmony and Love... all the more shown by the season 3 pilot.

But we know she is a troll! Don't you remember the party at the Cakes? She totally trolled Mr and Mrs Cake!

-Smiles- You do realize what a troll is right? There is a big difference between simply having a sense of humor and liking to play jokes from time to time... and being a troll that incites anger and conflict. Ones that love having a good laugh at others expense and don't care about others feelings. They just want to have a good laugh and fun.

Discord is a troll, Celestia is not.

Well seeing as she isnt the main character, and is the ruler of the nation. I feel that their concerns are misplaced. Indeed, Celestia has been shown to be an emotional being, which is a flaw itself.

Plenty of fan work explores the unmasked side of Celestia without falling into molestia, trollestia, or tyrant territory. I don't really believe she's any of those things, but they are still funny none the less. (Best Troller in ALL of Equestria and Princess Molestia, being some of the funniest things I've ever read)

For me one of the funniest and the funnest fanfictions I have read was a Solar Empire and New Lunar Republic fanfiction where the sisters had a water balloon fight.