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Today I went hiking. It was the fifth time I had tacked this simple 3.8 mile loop to the top of a big hill, and the fourth time I turned back early. I need hiking friends made of sterner stuff.
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That depends on the elevation.
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Neither are severe, and the 8.3 mile hike only goes rises 2/3 as much as the elevation of the shorter one, and you start under 1000'.
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Day or overnight?
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