Ashton

Just wanted to point out that Trixie isn't really a "mage" type unicorn like Twilight is. Trixie is a magician (not a mage), and all of her magical abilities revolve around illusions and showmanship. In that sense, she is a fairly typical unicorn.

Actually "mage" is the shortened form of "Magician" but I see your point.

Actually this brings up a thought to me: contrails are created by water vapour and jet engine exhaust. However, a similar effect is produced called Wingtip Vortices (the thin clouds seen on the tips of high speed aircraft like jet fighters). It's entirely possible that as a pegasus flies at relatively high speeds (the Wonderbolts are shown in season 2 as being able to fly fast enough to be blurs (Sweet and Elite) and shear off dragon spines (Secret of My Excess), so it's possible they preform at high speeds too), they form a similar kind of "magic" contrail or wingtip vortex or other condensation trail, which, using the pegasus' innate ability to control clouds, could be used to modify these trails: for the 'Bolts, they use friction generated by their suits to charge the clouds with static to make thunderclouds, while Dash modifies her "contrails" through pegasus magic to cause them to separate into a mist, which when the sun hits causes a rainbow. Neither the Wonderbolts nor Dash always leave trails behind, and in Sonic Rainboom, the 'Bolts are flying slower than usual and while they still have a trail, it's brighter than usual and there's no lightning.

It just hit me how amusing it is that we're digging so deep into science to explain a tv show about candy-colored talking ponies... lol (not that it's a bad thing, just amusing)

I love the idea that the suits are made to collect and discharge static! (as awesome as it is, being able to control lightning is kinda a game-breaker in most stories) Though at the same time, I point out also in Luna Exclipsed where Dash just kicked the cloud and it created lightning, of course this could have been specifically because it was a "thunder head" cloud isntead of a "rain cloud" or the white clouds created from high-speed flight...

The issue with Dash's trail though is she can go from a stand-still and leave it, there is no opportunity to create waver vapor unless she keeps herself perpetually wet... (though on this note I want to point out she did almost exactly the trick you mentioned in "boast busters" - flying through clouds, collecting moisture, then causing light to reflect off it to make a rainbow over her head) Of course on the other paw, we dont know what the relative humidity is in ponyville, it's quite possible that she has an invisible cloud of moisture floating around her at all times specifically for this occurrence...

At 10:30? I'm at college then!

Get a DVR! Dont the ponies mean that much to you!? (lol! j/k)

I dont talk about it, but then I dont talk to people much. I Do have pony playing in my car most of the time (often with the windows open) and when $$$ allows, I am planning to order a few pony shirts and a Rainbow Dash messenger bag for my tablet...

So... it's a bit of both. I'm not open but I dont hide it. If somone openly asked me if I liked it, I would tell them "no, I dont like it - I LOVE IT!" and likely proceed to rattle off every awesome thing rainbow dash has ever done (lol)

Online personally I think doesnt count, it's so anonymous people will admit to ANYTHING no matter how good/bad/sick it is because they can always either leave a site or just change their usernames. But, on that note, I openly and soemtimes proudly state I'm a Brony and a Furry, so...

It's hard to get away from TV Tropes' website, there's just so many topics to click on!!!

No straight shippings in a show that was technically made for little girls, everyone has to be homosexual. Seems legit.

lol. nonono! the trope your looking for is:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EveryoneIsBi

That way it's still acceptable! lol

I read MLP fics on http://www.Fimfiction.net , nopony I see ever bashes on others because they don't like the pairing, but I have yet to see that anyway.

I just wanted to point out that iirc, fimfiction has 100% open, you can post a story "teh raenbo ponez wints to teh zoo" and it's avalible for everyone, while ED put all FF though several pre-readers to weed out the lower-quality ones. (Though it takes a long time and a lot of good stories are missed, like "muffins")

I dont have any direct experiance with little kids (small family) but it's interesting what I've noticed based on numerous sites is this:

-for the most part, anyone under 8 doesnt watch the show (or cant follow it)

-from 8 to 12, it's a random mix of boys and girls, though mostly girls because boys are in the "I'm MANLY!" phase

-from 13 plus again its fairly random but the concentration of males rises the older the demographic gets...

I think part of the reason it's not more popular, in genneral, is because it's run on some obscure cable channel that aparently very few people get and fewer watch...

Ok, *technically* this is for a fanfic, but I might roleplay this character and I figured you RPers might be more helpful at brainstorming what the character's tallent is... (ironically has has a cutie mark already but...)

Name: Dunes

Gender: Stallion

Age: Adult

Species: Earth Pony

Home: Aridia (desert)

Color: Sandy brown

Cutie Mark: 3 sand dunes

Temperment: Easy going, kind, helpful

Relationships: currently caring for a mysterious slightly aggressive and arrogant mare who lost her memory... is developing into a full-blown relationship (if you want the full story, you'll just have to wait till I finish the fanfic! ;P lol)

Cothing: occasionally wears a sandy or white cloak/mask when out in the desert to keep sand out of his fur and various orifices

Despite all this, I have no idea what his tallent is! Obviously it has something to do with living in the desert and something to do with sand dunes, but... I'm at a bit of a loss...

Thoughts?

I have 1 friend on a forum that's a brony, and 2 that like the show but dont *love* it...

In Real Life, my DM's a brony (makes for some hilarious in-jokes during games) but nobody else... (well nobody I know, there's a girl I know at a local shop who loves anime, cartoons, and furries, so I suspect she might be, but I've not had a chance to ask her...)

It's a lonly life for a brony in a rural small down in the bible belt...

There are a few other topics on the board related to magic, might want to check those out and see if they can help you. (They're organized from least recent to most recent.)

How do spells work?

Glossaria Arcana

Questionable powers? (Need advice.)

How does unicorn magic work?

[Archives]Unicorn Ponies

Equestrian Theory of Magic

Thaumo-tech and flying chariots

wow... a lot to take in...

A few thoughts since I'm not going to necro those old threads...

Unicorn magic being a force of nature that is controlled through will... I just have to quote "Magic, magic, do as you will"

Also, this may seem obvious, but who says the spellbooks ARENT incantations and Twilight/Trixie/etc arent just reciting them in their head? (possibly so the studio can circumvent 'Gratuitous Latin' during production)

The idea that a unicorn's magic resides in it's horn makes me seriously wonder if a non-unicorn could perform magic using a unicorn horn (either by er... removing.. one from a live unicorn or by taking the horn from a deceased unicorn)

This also makes me wonder about other kinds of magic such as invoking the raw primal elements (earth/fire/wind/water), clarical magic (essentially 'praying' for an effect), or even Words of Power (in short speaking the language of the Gods and commanding things to happen - words that cannot even be properly pronounced without training and ar usually signified in stories/games/etc by bracketing in exclamation marks (such as the famous !LIVE!, !PAIN!, and !DEATH! from, iirc Dungeons and Dragons)

Of course this is all speculation since none of what I'm babling about occurs in Canon (except possibly the mental recitation of spells) But it's certainly food for thought (and fanfics...)

in order:

Again, I can't find the interview, but one, with Faust herself I believe, has it stated that magic exists for all ponies. Remember that magic doesn't need to manifest itself as powers: pegasi can control weather, stand on clouds, and manipulate them into "solid" objects. For all we know Earth pony magic involves a connection to the earth that lets them be more adept at growing plants, or aiding animals, etc.

Interesting idea, hopefully something will pop up to back this up since so far honestly no earth-pony has shown what I would consider a major "nature connection" unless you count AJ's herding skills, and it's implied that's more because she's a cowgirl rather than because she's an earth-pony...

Spike was hatched by magic. Perhaps that gave him his letter sending ability?

Not sure - I'm thinking that might have given him some for of magic though since his fire is green not yellow like the other 2 dragons.

Also spike *can* use his fire as, well, fire. He' sbeen shown to burn things several times without the "magic" effect and without them getting sent to celestia, so I'm thinking it's something he has to trigger himself rather than an innate ability...

It's less effort, more innate skill I believe. Also note that there's magic but not particularly "mages", per se. Spike doesn't need to be a mage to do his letter sending thing, it's innate. Twilight is shown to have incredible innate ability at magic, while others, like say Rarity, are shown with only minor manipulation of items. It just relates to their innate abilities...Twilight, being a powerful unicorn, has magic as her special ability. Rarity, a dressmaker, uses her ability to manipulate a sewing machine, needle, etc.

Yes, this much is clear. I'm just curious how capable unicorns are at using non-inate magic (like snails lighting his horn) because that opens a world of possibilities compared to "your magic relates to your tallent"

Finally, the 'Bolts. I still say magic suits involving static electricity for the 'Bolts' trails, that can be turned on or off. It's not present when they fly in Sweet and Elite nor in Secret of My Excess, only performances. Either pegasi can create "contrails", or the 'Bolts' suits are at work.

I'll have to check, I thought I saw another pegasus do it before, which would mean it's an inate ability...

Also the lightning - we see Dash summoning lightning from the cloud in "Luna Eclipsed" (while in "Friendship is Magic Pt 1" she summons Rain from a similar cloud) which makes me wonder if they have much more fine-control over what happens to clouds becides just moving them around and standing on them...

All your points are valid food for thought though ^^

Thank you, and I appoligize if I seem to be nit-picking, I'm just trying to fully understand the system that's in place before I go off breaking it and fixing it my own way lol

Moving this to Proposed Lore and Discussion.

I thought this area was purely for RP stuff (as opposed to trying to figure out the official rules of magic), my appologies for sticking the thread in the wrong board >.<

Moving this to Writing Discussion.

OOO my thread is getting bounced all around! lol (again, sorry for the wrong place, I thought as I'm asking about the official Hasbro/FiM rules it went in the "universe" discussion)

Are we to claim that magic causes the insides of the buildings to expand or something?

No, that's jut silly - The buildings are OBVIOUSLY TARDISes! lol

Related to this topic, I think we may find some evidence of pony races and their relationships with each other in this next episode. If you read the expanded synopsis of the episode, you'll see what i mean.

I avoid spoilers like the plague, but I look forward to seeing it

hi hi

While this is just a suggestion, you might also want to consider not putting a cleft in the front of the hind legs. At least in the ponies on the show, the leading edge of their hind legs are usually one continuous curve unless they're sitting.

Odd that their knee vanishes unless sitting lol, I hadn't noticed that. I'll take that into account when I draw Dunes (my own OC) Thank you

I think it's been stated that everyone has magic. Earth ponies have a special magic connection to the earth, etc. So it can be seen that everyone has magic (dragons with magic fire, zebras with magic that allows them to make their brews, etc). However, in the case of Spike, being hatched by magic could possibly have an effect.

I'm not 100% sure just what "magic" earth ponies have, what little I've seen seems to just be common sense...

I'm not sure about the dragons, though - spike's fire seems to send stuff to celestia, but other dragons in the series lack such a skill. I'm wondering if it's a specific spell he casts before he does it (Making him a minor mage?)

Also, there was just recently posted here an explanation for unicorn magic in that every unicorn has a different level of magic, allowing some to preform more magic than the other.

That's a similar explanation to what a friend of mine said "All unicorns can perform magic, it's just harder for (non-mages)" citing how much trouble it was for the unicorn to make his horn glow --- but that he COULD do it. Of course this then begs the question of where the limits lie... and do they change per unicorn? the Princesses are downright Reality Warpers (but this could be due to their being Alicorns/Pegacorns or godesses) Could twilight do the same with more effort? Could Snips+Snails? (though the latter I think the required effort might kill them...)

As for the Wonderbolts creating their trails, I chalk it up to their suits: Aerobatic teams rely on smoke to enhance their tricks, making them more visual. The suits may be magic'd to allow them to create stormcloud trails. Dash may use her pegasus magic to a similar effect showing how she wishes she was part of that aerobatic team.

Not just smoke though - lightning too ("best night ever" when they first fly out in "reality" and also in Dash's "dream")

The counter-argument I've seen though is "if pegasai can make clouds, why do they make them at the weather factory?"

my guess for this is "pegasai magic is just like all other magic, enough of it wears the pony out, so it's better to just mass-produce them than to force each pegasus to make them themselves"

I never actually see Rainbow's mane spitting rainbows. I always saw the trail she leaves behind as the blur her tail creates when she flies by. This was seen by Pinkie's streak of pink in Party of One, too. Remember that in cartoons, the reality of physics can be stretched and over-exaggerated.

Watch filly dash when she first makes a sonic rainboom, her mane literally turns to rainbows (though this is a "memory/dream" so arguably it might just be how Dash envisioned it)

It seems rather long to just be the blur from her tail, imo, however at the same time, I've never taken the time to really compare the lengths... (also doesn't account for the rainbow fire, or the zig-zag rainbow left behind in "May the Best Pet Win")

This is true, though pinky especially has been stated as being able to exploit cartoon physics to an extreme (upto and including 4th-wall awareness/breaking), while most of the characters have to maintain *some* realism.

First off, there is ALWAYS a way to find the show online. It is easier than finding a virus.

I wouldn't say that... I can just leave my PC on and get a virus if it's booted to windows (I think Deviant Art has a virus mixed in with their banner ads - no joke)

Ah, TV Tropes has the answer to everything. I like Dash and Soarin in shipping as well, so I know what you mean by unpopular.

Once you start looking to TV tropes for answers all the time, it means the site HAS STOLEN YOUR SOUL! *soul belongs to TV Tropes*

Glad to see somone else likes it. A friend of mine suggested it's unpopular due to an unwritten rule "No Straight Shippings in MLP"

overall it looks pretty good, but the anatomy is a bit off. there are three things you need to touch up on, then I think it will look great

one thing that really stands out is the neck. it pokes outwards at the top, when it should actually poke inwards (even on a real horse, the neck pokes in).

the second thing is that overall, the pony is stretched out too far horizontally. the legs, body and head are all a bit too wide

the final thing is that the horn is placed a bit too high on the forehead. it seems strange, but the horn should almost be between the eyes (not quite, but close)

Neck I'll see if I can fix next time... the overall size means I can probably just 'squish' it down a dozen or so pikels then if *everything* is too wide... Horn... that does sound strange... I'll see what I can do about it too

I hope this doesn't come off as harsh, I'm just trying to help. right now you have a great start, and it's better than a lot of pony art that I've seen

Oh not at all! I couldnt ask for a nicer critique! I'll work on those and try again on another OC (I have 1 OC of my own - that one I showed you was done for my DM as an xmas gift) and hopefully by friday I'll have something new to show

I thought I linked it... oh well...

http://neko-0ni.deviantart.com/

my 3 newest deviations. (all variants on the same design)

The forgotten elements? Obviously Earth, Fire, Wind, Water, and Heart! ...and when their powers combine....

Sorry, had to make that joke...

Here's a fun idea to play with:

Element of Redemption

Also, cheesy enough "Love"

This is why people like Twilight+Trixie:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FoeYay

Personally, Trixie is too evil imo, I cast her as my dragon usually...

Personally... I got nothing against it if it make sense. Some I don't really like, personally I don't care for AppleDash for example because the two are always arguing (and do NOT get me started on the Bloomberg "pairings"... >.<). On the other paw, it almost a secret subtext that Dash and Fluttershy are more than casual friends (Though it's also possible that since they've known each other since at least school (probably since birth since both are from cloudsdale) they're more like sisters. Also as ridiculous as it is, I'm amused by Discopie... Honestly if he was less "evil" I could see that working out beautifully...

I seem to be unpopular, I love to ship Dash and Soarin. Something about that look he gave her seemed to be saying 'hey, I like you' and she seemed to like him too. (I also like the idea of her being in love or in a crush on a wonderbolt... just amuses me)

Also someone said that in a lot of fanon Soarin and Spitfire were a couple...? Doesnt bother me but seemed odd imo...

This may belong in another forum, I'm not sure.

I'm trying to work out the "official" rules of how Magic works in the FiM universe...

The overall concept seems to be "only Unicorns can do active magic" and "Pegasai can do weather magic"

The sub-text to the first "rule" seems to be "unless you have a 'mage' talent (like Twilight or Trixie), you can only do magic related to your talent (And telekinesis)" However on at least 1 occasion we've seen a unicorn perform magic NOT related to his talent (Snails (Snips?) made his horn glow in Boast Busters)

There is also an argument to whether Zecora performs "magic" or a form of "Alchemy"

Next, There is a distinct magic aura when spike sends letters to Celestia and regurgitates her responses. Does this mean dragons have magic?

Last, It's been said that Pegasai have magic related to weather. We've seen them create storms and even tornadoes. Also the Wonderbolts make lightning and storm clouds trails. (Not to mention Rainbow Dash's trail of rainbows, and arguably possibly the trail of rainbow fire she left behind in May the Best Pet Win)

Now, yes, I am trying to organize them FOR a fanfic, but I'm trying to work out the OFFICIAL rules outlined by the episodes (or official sources) so please no references to fan works.

Thoughts?

If you've read anything except the title of this thread, you would know that you don't need the HUB to watch all of the episodes. I actually prefer them on my PC. Because I can watch them whenever I want.

This.

I dont even have cable (heck where I live I dont even have free broadcast!) Lots of places listed and tons more not listed.

I put up my first piece of Pony art on my DA today, and while I'm overall content with it, I'm not happy with certain aspects (especially the backgrounds) Anyone willing to take a look and offer suggestions?

Good luck, I've not had any luck so far finding editors/proofreaders/pre-readers/etc either...

I have a hard time getting to cons but I love to cosplay. I'm hoping *crosses claws* to get to FWA and Dragon*Con this year (both Atlanta) and if I do I'm secondly hoping to finish my Rainbow Dash (in Winter Wrap Up vest) cosplay in time (if I have time and luck I'm even planning to learn to imitate her voice).

Hoping being the key here since I'm currently out of work and honestly dont like the Gaginka style of cosplay, I'm aiming at a slightly more accurate Dash... I've *found* everything I need except Blue shoes/boots... (not sure I'm going that rout though, so not looking hard)

It scares me though how many Rainbow Dash cosplayers there are right now... I dont mind when there are 2-3 of the same character at a con, but I wouldn't want to see "HEY RD, CAN I GET A PIC?!" and a dozen or two cosplayers swarm over...

While I dont have *cosplay* images I do have a lot of similar furry/costume pics on my DA if people want to hit that up.

There's also Pony Archive (http://ponyarchive.org) which so far lists multiple sources for streams.

I'm suspicious it's a troll too, since Hasbro doesn't care about the "R-rated" videos people are making using FiM clips.

Keep in mind, Hasbro is a TOY company, the series is just a promotion for them, if they never sold a single DVD they wouldn't care (relatively speaking) all their profits come from merchandising. Now if a company was selling MLP toys in mass at lower cost, yeah, I'd think Hasbro might try to shut them down, but it's TO THEIR BENEFIT to let the episodes appear on youtube (I'm honestly surprised there isn't an official channel with all of them on it like Funimation has)

Hello. Welcome to Canterlot . I am also new here. i don't count MLP as furry, but I too, am a furry. Hope to see you around.

*nuzzles* More furs!

*technically* it is Anthropomorphasized ponies, so it's furry in the literal definition, but yeah, most people don't equate them despite a lot of similarities. Same with the old Sonic Fandom (which I see a LOT of parallels with in the FiM Fandom)