Assassin's Creed 4 WWII?

[Mistfire]

Ok, so this is like a giant fountain of ideas that just ran through my mind after beating Assassins Creed 3. To begin with, look at the templar symbol shown below

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Now look at the Nazi iron cross (Sorry if i get into some delicate topics with those of you in the Jewish religion)

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Now, what I'm trying to get at here is that AC4 might just take place in WWII. To begin with, look at the timespan between games 2 and 3. They work over a 2 century timespan. If this were to happen once more, we'd be from approximately 1750 to the 1950's. Give or take a few years, we are close to WWII. What i think may happen is that the beginning of the game revolves around a Jewish child (who will take the role of the assassin) who is living through the struggles of WWI. Following history, the character (Lets call him Aksel) will learn about his assassin roots near the age of 6. Then we meet Aksel again near the age of lets say... 28 where we see him return from a trip in Jerusalem -insert potential AC2 reference here- and come home only to find out his parents were taken by the Nazis to the camps. He eventually aims to save them once the truth of the camps are revealed to everyone as an assassin, but a group of Nazi leaders (Including Hitler maybe) don't want him to interfere because he is not only Jewish, but because the assassin and templar conflict still persists.

Let's stop here

Looking into AC2, there was mention of Hitler being associated with the templars. Now if you put two and two together, you can see why i put the iron cross and templar symbol together, they look alike and support the info from AC2.

Back to the story and a few thing that support my thoughts

No one is exactly sure how Hitler died. I think a fitting way is to have him die in the game the same way Charles Lee did in AC3, except its Hitler giving up because he lost and letting Aksel kill him to end this once and for all. Its graceful, fits the assassin's swift, quiet ways of killing, and shows yet another way of how Hitler's mysterious death was caused. Part of the game could revolve around infiltrating concentration camps and maybe sparing a few sent to gas chambers or executions like in AC3. Elements created in the game can be open conflict increasing as the game's story goes by, for example

If you were to be on your way to a mission, you would notice a few Nazi soldiers might be following you near the middle of the storyline. Near the end, You would have Nazi soldiers chasing you as soon as they could recognize you without warning.

Gameplay:

Its WWII, guns are more advanced and tanks now exist, but we don't want Aksel getting killed to easily and we dont want this to turn into a CoD and AC hybrid. So, i propose we make Aksel's health last a bit more from better protection, and if he were to pick up an enemy weapon, the bullets would be limited to say... 20 if its a machine gun and 10 if its something like a glock. The tanks could be entered, but you wouldn't be able to drive them around all over the map, it'd be more of a "kill the driver and trash it" deal where you would be rewarded. Side-quests could be things like saving prisoners from soldiers or just delivering things around town for money. Of course Nazis wouldn't be your only problem in-game, some other axis/allies members could be involved as well, like maybe Italian raids somewhere in town or an aerial attack from the U.S.A. where you have to escape. It would be a game where its just you vs. the world, literally.

Aksel has a meaning as well. It means "To revolve around peace". What Aksel is fighting for is the peace he wants so much as the war rages on and the Jewish population diminishes from the Nazis and the battles they get caught in. Overall, this wouldn't be another game with Nazi zombies or a man shooting down robotic Hitlers, this would be another assassins creed game that follows another date in History the way it should be.

My final thoughts: This can be a good game, it fits nicely in the assassin's creed timeline, and can offer a safe jump into AC5 which will obviously take place in modern times. If Ubisoft can successfully avoid having AC4 become a CoD adventure/shooter, we have another GoTY nominee

I'd love to hear from you on what you think. Is this a good idea? Or is AC4 most likely going to be something else. Anything, from a simple "Agreed" to a completely different concept is fine. I'll be waiting!

-M!$T

[TemplarFrost]

I agree with you on most points, except for the Iron Cross deal...

The Iron Cross is not necessarily dealt with only by Nazis. The Iron Cross (Just like the eagle) has been with Germany for the longest while. They did not get it from Templars, but from a different knight order, the Tetounic Knights. That order was born in Early Medieval Germany (Back then, Holy Roman Empire) and their symbol has always been the Iron Cross. And furthermore, there was no definite symbol for the Templars. They haven't even started to wear their iconic red cross on white robes until 1147.

As for the WWII setting... I don't know. It's a concept that could be easily screwed up, (Due to the addition of automatic rifles and tanks). I was hoping AC4 could take place in Ancient Rome. There is canon around Caesar being a Templar, and Brutus being part of the Animus. Hence why Caesar was assassinated by him.

[Mistfire]

Yeah lots of well proven points on the iron cross part... but hey Hitler is still mentioned in-game as a Templar.

The only way a WWII setting would work is if the tanks couldnt be driven and any guns that are picked up have low ammo and they can only be swapped

AND some people anticipate for an AC4 set in China/Feudal Japan.

There can be many roads to take with the possibilities the first 3 games have made, so if it was going to be a WWII game, they'd have to tread carefully and have lots of beta testing to see if its what the fans want

[TehBbqdPizza]

In my opinion, I disagree with the idea.

The main reason is that guns and other firearms would be relied too heavily to give interest on the story line. Even if limited ammo was given, 20th century guns would seriously kill the feeling of the Assassin's Creed series. Barely does the game ever show these kind of guns. (except on parts where it switches to Desmond again at the present) With these, it might turn AC into more of a FPS game.

My best guess is they will continue on to the 19th century, or soon after the Revolutionary War. On these times guns are still flintlock, caplock, falling block, and revolvers. Most of these are still able to give the "taste" of the game, as AC focuses more on swords, axes, and all that.

Oh, and hidden blades, too.

[Mistfire]

Yeah, thats right too, but still, you never know how Ubisoft may surprise us. When AC3 first mentioned the word gun everyone just begged no, but the way it worked went great, maybe there could be a good way to do that with more modern gins as well.. thats what i think idk about you

[Penumbra]

AC4 confirmed.

Yarr

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Edited March 17, 2013 by Rosewind
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[Volt]

Lol, Limecreed.

http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf

[TehBbqdPizza]

AC4 confirmed.

Yarr

Yeah, I saw that. Looks like it's going back from the timeline, considering this takes place in the Golden Age of Piracy. (Probably the 1690s to 1720s.)

What's making me curious is the present day. Who's the main character now? Desmond is dead, and basically I'm wondering about the new character. Apparently it's going to be a Abstergo member.

I'm also tired on how PETA is being so butt-hurt about the whole thing. AC4 isn't focusing on "killing whales", that was something fitting in that era, and they're not, in any way, encouraging whale killing in real life. If it was that way, hunting should have been banned in AC3 because it "encourages" killing bears and wolves.

[Mistfire]

Actually the game will have no real main character, you'll just be an Abstergo employee I think, no real name